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Nocturne

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Zach Earl of Boar

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Batmang

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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the very comprehensive post. I recently bought a boar brush from an unnamed auction site and have been underwhelmed so far (I know, Caveat Emptor)but having this post gives me encouragement not to give up too quickly. (Besides, I may need to upgrade the quality of the brush anyway.)
Thanks for your efforts (and your videos as well.)
Nathan (still a newbie)
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Zach Earl of Boar

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Batmang

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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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It was an Omega...it came with a little stand and I was being penny-wise and pound-foolish. It was 12.95 and for a few dollars more i could have had one of better quality. I used the hot water soak/borax treatment today and it has lost much of it's odor, but I'll let it dry for a day and then try it again.
Nathan
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CMur12
Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Posts: 3479 Location: Moses Lake, Washington
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Nathan -
I'm not aware of any Omega boar model that isn't a good brush, so buying another one probably wouldn't be the answer. A larger brush, with longer bristle, would have a different feel to it, though.
If you're not used to boar performance, it might take a little practice to make the adjustment. The brush will also improve with use.
I hope it works out for you -
- Murray
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Zach Earl of Boar

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| Murray is always right with his advice.
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rustyblade Shaving Paparazzo

Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 10082 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:20 am Post subject: |
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The bleached variety of boar brushes seem to be softer overall (shafts too). There is a difference in the Omega lines. I would generally say if you want a softer boar look for the the ones with the fake badger stripe.
I wonder if this softening in the bleaching process is what makes certain badger tips softer at the tips too.
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Zach Earl of Boar

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John 5

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| Zach, can you divulge a tad bit more on exactly what is being let loose in March? I'm totally bummed out, reference the T2 project being DOA, and need something brushwise to think of.
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Zach Earl of Boar

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:17 am Post subject: |
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Sorry to hear about the T2 project; I had been reading that thread but not closely.
March 1st will herald the arrival of some never before available boars, of course. Such that if you're looking to spend some money on your first boar, you might want to wait and see, especially someone like yourself who wants a little more luxury in their brush. But a #48 will get the job done too, and won't break the bank.
Giovanni has closed his web store for the time being so he can catch up with some pressing work assignments he has, but a #48 is easy to come by; a #49 is fine too. These are great starters but if you want some more style, try the Jagger from Scott or the Vulfix from Paul, or a wooden or acrylic Omega, or, wait till March for several more choices.
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Batmang

Joined: 08 Jan 2009 Posts: 425 Location: Buffalo, NY
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Tried my Omega today and had a totally different experience than I did the first time. It was a very enjoyable experience. Thanks for the advice guys.
Nathan
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Zach Earl of Boar

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| Batmang wrote: |
Tried my Omega today and had a totally different experience than I did the first time. It was a very enjoyable experience. Thanks for the advice guys.
Nathan |
And you'll get to know it better, and it will get to know you better, and you two will work better and better as a team. This may sound colloquial but it's fact. It will break in and become more user friendly over the next few weeks, and you will become aware of its 'needs' and work better with it, too. Good news, Nathan!
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rustyblade Shaving Paparazzo

Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 10082 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| It really is a shame that with the temporary closure of Gio's store that some more interesting Omega's are now impossible to get. Perhaps he should focus on the importing part and let someone else 'retail' them.
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John 5

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| Richard, Zach, if I wanted to buy a boar brush today, needless to say the 'best' that my moronic self desires, what and where do I buy?
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Zach Earl of Boar

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| It really is a shame that with the temporary closure of Gio's store that some more interesting Omega's are now impossible to get. Perhaps he should focus on the importing part and let someone else 'retail' them. |
He has no shortage of offers, too. The following is my opinion:
He's not really in the shave supply business; his love of the 'art' and his "über" shavegeek (I prefer the Greek form, ὑπέρ) status cannot be contained to a shave den; he must have a shave warehouse. So, since he's got the warehouse, he has to share with friends. Then his friends don't want it for free, they want to pay him; then he tinkers with the idea of it as a 'business'.
And so it goes, with his wife now packing hundreds of boxes a week.
Again, all this is conjecture on my part.
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rustyblade Shaving Paparazzo

Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 10082 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| John 5 wrote: |
| Richard, Zach, if I wanted to buy a boar brush today, needless to say the 'best' that my moronic self desires, what and where do I buy? |
I own the 31025 and I think this whole line has the softest bristles (while still having stiff shafts and all that). They aren't scritchy at all.
I must admit I'm having a bit of a revelation (to the glee of Zach). Best badgers are considered cheaper and generally more scritchy so we pay more for the super-badger type of which most end up being very soft, perhaps too much so, even floppy. We are then sold on spending hundreds upon hundreds more for rare 'white' varieties of badger that have stiffer shafts and soft tips, lo-and-behold, just like that of the lowly boar brush (again, a generalization, as Zach has said some boars are pretty bad), I'm thinking more about the 31025 above but the Omega Pros are nice too although will require a bit more breaking in. The only knock against the boar in relation to a finest badger is less water holding capability, something that is easily remedied. I used to add water to my badger brush between passes anyway as that's how I like the lather.
There is something very satisfying, and fun, getting $300+ of "feel" from a $35 brush.
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John 5

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| Interesting. Where can I buy that 31025 right now? It is the only one that at least visually, looks appealing to me.
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rustyblade Shaving Paparazzo

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:47 am Post subject: |
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But John, you are again a little late to the party as these brushes are impossible to get while Gio is closed.
Johnny come lately.
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John 5

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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| Ok. I shall do with the three exquisite 2 band Plissons I just acquired from AOS yesterday. They shall ease the lingering T2 pain.
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